Boo Hoo! Last February - Super Bowl Sunday - my boyfriend of 9 months told me he thought he was going to HAVE to vote for Trump because Biden was too old. I asked him if someone was holding a gun to his head? He said he felt better having a "business man" run the country. I laughed out loud. My (former)boyfriend is the CFO of a large company here in CA. I said if he thought Trump was a business man he was crazy. I said a lot of other stuff too. Never allowed him in my home again. Good riddance. It's a morality issue, not a political issue. Uggggh, I'm in the anger phase of grief I guess.
Listen to Earache My Eye (Cheech and Chong). Trump is a squanderer--not a business man. He lies, cheats, and steals. He followed his old man, denying residency to black folks. A little later in his sad life-- well, just ask contractors in Atlantic City. Other cities who he STILL owes money to for venue rentals. The Central Park Five come to mind. And those are just on MY short list. He's a mink in human clothing. Who buries his wife on a golf course, for crying out loud. Yick, ick, and urp. Sigh. Not that I have an opinion or anything.
My staunch republican aunt texted me to wish my husband happy Veterans Day. When I told her she was not allowed to vote for someone who calls veterans suckers and losers, then wish my husband a happy Veterans Day, she had a melt down. Now it’s my fault that our family is falling apart and her depression is getting worse. Call a therapist bitch, I have zero fucks to give.
I should not Delight in the tales of Woe these poor pitiful Trump supporters tell. But I do. Little do they know that we unfriended them in our minds the first time they tried to defend Trump.
According to figures gleaned from the web, in the 2024 presidential elections 28.2% of eligible USans voted for Harris, 29.5% voted for the Rump, and 42.2% didn't turn up. Shame. They choose to live in a "democracy" and probably are proud of it, but can't even find an hour or so every four years to participate.
I'm in Australia, where we have compulsory voting. We reckon that if someone's going to live in a democracy they gotta find at least a few minutes for at least a postal vote every 4 years. We don't have "presidential" elections, but do have Federal, State and Council elections. All compulsory.
*Please note*: If you have compulsory voting you don't lose an enormous amount of time, money and effort in "get out the vote" stuff (which is wasted on 1/3 of people in the US). Instead you can use it on "vote for ME, this is what I stand for" stuff.
In the US it's usually about 1/3 Democrat, about 1/3 Republican — with enough difference that one party's candidate usually "wins" subject to the Electoral Bollage — and about 1/3 do not vote. This was slightly worse than that.
Another problem we might've had this time: complacency. X-P
Although: what the flick happened to that $1 billion Harris got in donations? Could it not have been better spent on ads educating voters ("Hi! I'm Kamala Harris, and this is my good friend Tim Walz. We're running for president and vice-president, we both like animals and people who don't even look like us, and will be trying to keep the economy still as good as it is now! Please vote for us! :D")? Where are the "dark money super PACs" all those rich celebs who were endorsing her (another way of saying, "We really like you, but we may or may not be donating to you! Good luck! :D") could've done, thanks to Citizens United? :-/
It's not politics you dumbfuck, get your head out of your ass! It's racism and bigotry and misogyny and hate and yes it's the Republican party but politics is the least of it!
Faith, if slavery were on the ballot, it would have become law because Trump supporters are very bad people wanting very bad things to happen....to those who don't look, act, or think like they look, act or think. This is a matter of principle. If you hate everything Trump stands for, then why be friends with people who love and worship him? It's just too much to ask. There's a price to be paid for worshiping Trump/Satan, and the MAGAts have to start ponying up. Let them seek out their own for comfort and leave the rest of us alone. There just isn't enough soap and hot water, yanno?
Yeah Niquie, I get it but still can't believe that shithead won. I agree about slavery being passed if it had made it to the ballot. I don't intend to continue any relationships with Trump supporters and hope to move to Portugal by early next year.
The thing that still confused me a very great (not bigly; that one ain't even going in my Spellchecker Dictionary) deal: even people who voted for Trump also often voted for things we like, like abortion rights and minimum wages and so forth. Isn't there a psych term like that? Disconnection? I am confused. :-/
I see your point, Nancy, but anyone who supports abortion rights and a fair, liveable minimum wage and who voted for Trump, does not support abortion rights or a fair and liveable minimum wage. It's just lip service to assuage their own guilt about supporting evil and hoping nobody thinks ill of them. It's like the people who want all humans with an umber tint to their skin and a discernable Spanish accent summarily deported. They will support that evil policy (that will disseminate the agricultural, hospitality and elder care industries to name but a few) while boasting that some of their friends are Mexican. Supporting evil is not done by degrees. You cannot embrace the Light and duck into Darkness when it suits you. Am I making sense? Because not much does, anymore!
I honestly can't wait to see the posts of them running crying to their non-evil relatives begging for help when they realize the leopards are coming for them now
Well, we're the party with brains, so we have several options.
I like the obstructionist idea. Also the revenge defunding alll the federal pork barrel shit that their hobo states rely on most heavily to supplement their lack of an economy
Me too. I definitely didn’t see any other course of action. It is sucha pleasure to have a conversation with someone who is not presenting false news and praising a monster.
Going to suck the next few years, so I will enjoy the stories of people upset that leopards are eating their faces when they are the same ones who voted for leopards eating faces.
It will be a bitter enjoyment of.all the people screaming while the leopards eat their faces. I won't list all the repercussions that eliminating the Dept of Ed amd NOAA for starters will bring. Or what theoretically rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants will do to our domestic job market and food chain. Or what an immediate steep tariff war will do to our supply chain (buy new electronics now, hint hint).
But seriously, our main responsibility is to our mental health, and if a family member is voting against you and your best interests, it is best for you to break from them for a little while. They may be upset or claim that you're close minded, but without your mental health, you can't be truly ok.
A wise man once told me:
Family doesn't end with blood, but it doesn't start there either... family is THERE. Through the good and bad, ALL of it. They've got your back, even when it hurts.
That's why these communities we've built up over the past 8 years of Trump are important. I consider God, Jesus, and and all the Substackers as family. Because they are there for me when I need someone, and I would be there for them.
So stay in contact with these communities we've created. They are family and will keep us sane through the oncoming storm.
When Trump was barely elected the first time, I forgave friends for voting for him because no one really knew what he would do. In 2020, after he lost a fair election and sent a mob to attack OUR capital and did NOTHING to stop it, I NEVER FORGAVE ANY THAT WERE THAT STUPID! I can forgive ignorance, BUT NEVER STUPID! I shunned both family and friends of thirty years or more. This time, because of STUPID, we will all be forced to eat SHIT! In ancient Rome, over half of their emperors died by assassination. THE ANCIENT ROMANS HAD SOME GREAT IDEAS!
Ignorance simply means, literally, "not knowing." It shouldn't have any shame attached to it; it's one of the easiest things in the universe to cure (right, God? :D): once you know something about something, you're not ignorant of it any more! :D Cured!! :D
My definition of stupidity is, I suspect, much like yours: willful ignorance. X-P
Oh, good heavens; I missed that...the surprised Trump supporter is GAY?! =8-0
That's like the "Arabs for Trump" thing...did they forget the Muslim Ban? Do they think Trump is going to give three shits about the Palestinians surviving Netanyahu's (sp.) attempt to eradicate them (btw, isn't that a little something we like to call...genocide?)? Why the hell do they think he'll be their "friend" at all?!
OK leopards, on your mark, get set, eat those faces. I am nauseated by the fact that we will hand over our Democracy to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist. Not sure what to do with friends and family who voted for him again. I can’t interact with them anytime soon, or ever? I’m hoping that the horrific plans to deport millions of immigrants might be interrupted and/or hit roadblocks from the court system or the heads of industries that hire immigrants. CA would collapse if all immigrants were deported. Since I’ve educated myself on what another maga administration would entail, I feel like I know too much, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. The REBELLION begins. God, help us all.
At least the newly inducted LAPD chief said to everyone of the media who'd listen, that basically he is NOT GOING TO COMPLY. And Newsom is pretty much digging in, as are quite a few of the other Democrat state governors. If the Rethuglicans are really all for "States' Rights!" that means our states, too. ;)
My question to everyone is did you vote for Trump? I am sure this will cost me family members. I have an aunt and uncle who are love the sinner hate the sin types. I suspect they voted for Trump. It will break my heart but I will not stand for their fake love.
SO not surprised this is happening. It’s going to get worst for the morons who voted for him. They can’t blame any democrats. That will make theirs heads explode.
Boo Hoo! Last February - Super Bowl Sunday - my boyfriend of 9 months told me he thought he was going to HAVE to vote for Trump because Biden was too old. I asked him if someone was holding a gun to his head? He said he felt better having a "business man" run the country. I laughed out loud. My (former)boyfriend is the CFO of a large company here in CA. I said if he thought Trump was a business man he was crazy. I said a lot of other stuff too. Never allowed him in my home again. Good riddance. It's a morality issue, not a political issue. Uggggh, I'm in the anger phase of grief I guess.
Listen to Earache My Eye (Cheech and Chong). Trump is a squanderer--not a business man. He lies, cheats, and steals. He followed his old man, denying residency to black folks. A little later in his sad life-- well, just ask contractors in Atlantic City. Other cities who he STILL owes money to for venue rentals. The Central Park Five come to mind. And those are just on MY short list. He's a mink in human clothing. Who buries his wife on a golf course, for crying out loud. Yick, ick, and urp. Sigh. Not that I have an opinion or anything.
I'm not at all certain that Ivana's death was accidental.
My staunch republican aunt texted me to wish my husband happy Veterans Day. When I told her she was not allowed to vote for someone who calls veterans suckers and losers, then wish my husband a happy Veterans Day, she had a melt down. Now it’s my fault that our family is falling apart and her depression is getting worse. Call a therapist bitch, I have zero fucks to give.
I should not Delight in the tales of Woe these poor pitiful Trump supporters tell. But I do. Little do they know that we unfriended them in our minds the first time they tried to defend Trump.
According to figures gleaned from the web, in the 2024 presidential elections 28.2% of eligible USans voted for Harris, 29.5% voted for the Rump, and 42.2% didn't turn up. Shame. They choose to live in a "democracy" and probably are proud of it, but can't even find an hour or so every four years to participate.
PLEASE NOTE: It's now 6 days and a lot of vote-counting later. The statistics have changed since I posted them on Nov 13, of course.
The figures for the Presidential election are now
Democrat 73.8 million (32.4%)
Republican 76.5 million (33.5%)
Eligible but did not vote 77.8 million (34.1%)
This is standard for most US elections: about 1/3 each (33.3%).
I'm in Australia, where we have compulsory voting. We reckon that if someone's going to live in a democracy they gotta find at least a few minutes for at least a postal vote every 4 years. We don't have "presidential" elections, but do have Federal, State and Council elections. All compulsory.
*Please note*: If you have compulsory voting you don't lose an enormous amount of time, money and effort in "get out the vote" stuff (which is wasted on 1/3 of people in the US). Instead you can use it on "vote for ME, this is what I stand for" stuff.
Bleeding Christ... X-P
Whoops! Sorry for the trigger there, Jesus; I just wasn't aware of those shitty stats until now. X-P
In the US it's usually about 1/3 Democrat, about 1/3 Republican — with enough difference that one party's candidate usually "wins" subject to the Electoral Bollage — and about 1/3 do not vote. This was slightly worse than that.
They probably won't believe you if you tell them that names are also pulled from driver's license databases.
Another problem we might've had this time: complacency. X-P
Although: what the flick happened to that $1 billion Harris got in donations? Could it not have been better spent on ads educating voters ("Hi! I'm Kamala Harris, and this is my good friend Tim Walz. We're running for president and vice-president, we both like animals and people who don't even look like us, and will be trying to keep the economy still as good as it is now! Please vote for us! :D")? Where are the "dark money super PACs" all those rich celebs who were endorsing her (another way of saying, "We really like you, but we may or may not be donating to you! Good luck! :D") could've done, thanks to Citizens United? :-/
If there are more wives thinking about divorce, they had better start proceedings now before no-fault divorce is in process of being repealed.
To Advice Needed:
It's not politics you dumbfuck, get your head out of your ass! It's racism and bigotry and misogyny and hate and yes it's the Republican party but politics is the least of it!
Faith, if slavery were on the ballot, it would have become law because Trump supporters are very bad people wanting very bad things to happen....to those who don't look, act, or think like they look, act or think. This is a matter of principle. If you hate everything Trump stands for, then why be friends with people who love and worship him? It's just too much to ask. There's a price to be paid for worshiping Trump/Satan, and the MAGAts have to start ponying up. Let them seek out their own for comfort and leave the rest of us alone. There just isn't enough soap and hot water, yanno?
Yeah Niquie, I get it but still can't believe that shithead won. I agree about slavery being passed if it had made it to the ballot. I don't intend to continue any relationships with Trump supporters and hope to move to Portugal by early next year.
The thing that still confused me a very great (not bigly; that one ain't even going in my Spellchecker Dictionary) deal: even people who voted for Trump also often voted for things we like, like abortion rights and minimum wages and so forth. Isn't there a psych term like that? Disconnection? I am confused. :-/
I see your point, Nancy, but anyone who supports abortion rights and a fair, liveable minimum wage and who voted for Trump, does not support abortion rights or a fair and liveable minimum wage. It's just lip service to assuage their own guilt about supporting evil and hoping nobody thinks ill of them. It's like the people who want all humans with an umber tint to their skin and a discernable Spanish accent summarily deported. They will support that evil policy (that will disseminate the agricultural, hospitality and elder care industries to name but a few) while boasting that some of their friends are Mexican. Supporting evil is not done by degrees. You cannot embrace the Light and duck into Darkness when it suits you. Am I making sense? Because not much does, anymore!
I am a mental health provider, empathic and compassionate. But I have to admit: I do not feel bad for these Trump voters one iota.
I honestly can't wait to see the posts of them running crying to their non-evil relatives begging for help when they realize the leopards are coming for them now
What happens when we lose our patience with state tyranny?
Well, we're the party with brains, so we have several options.
I like the obstructionist idea. Also the revenge defunding alll the federal pork barrel shit that their hobo states rely on most heavily to supplement their lack of an economy
My republican "friends" have now become my republican "acquaintances." Their vitriol during the election was that chilling.
Mine aren't even acquaintances any more. They're dead to me.
I am right with you, can't and won't consider fascist supporters my friends or family!
Me too. I definitely didn’t see any other course of action. It is sucha pleasure to have a conversation with someone who is not presenting false news and praising a monster.
Going to suck the next few years, so I will enjoy the stories of people upset that leopards are eating their faces when they are the same ones who voted for leopards eating faces.
It will be a bitter enjoyment of.all the people screaming while the leopards eat their faces. I won't list all the repercussions that eliminating the Dept of Ed amd NOAA for starters will bring. Or what theoretically rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants will do to our domestic job market and food chain. Or what an immediate steep tariff war will do to our supply chain (buy new electronics now, hint hint).
I'll make the popcorn, you bring the beer.
Karma's a bitch!
But seriously, our main responsibility is to our mental health, and if a family member is voting against you and your best interests, it is best for you to break from them for a little while. They may be upset or claim that you're close minded, but without your mental health, you can't be truly ok.
A wise man once told me:
Family doesn't end with blood, but it doesn't start there either... family is THERE. Through the good and bad, ALL of it. They've got your back, even when it hurts.
That's why these communities we've built up over the past 8 years of Trump are important. I consider God, Jesus, and and all the Substackers as family. Because they are there for me when I need someone, and I would be there for them.
So stay in contact with these communities we've created. They are family and will keep us sane through the oncoming storm.
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. I treasure all my new substack family.
When Trump was barely elected the first time, I forgave friends for voting for him because no one really knew what he would do. In 2020, after he lost a fair election and sent a mob to attack OUR capital and did NOTHING to stop it, I NEVER FORGAVE ANY THAT WERE THAT STUPID! I can forgive ignorance, BUT NEVER STUPID! I shunned both family and friends of thirty years or more. This time, because of STUPID, we will all be forced to eat SHIT! In ancient Rome, over half of their emperors died by assassination. THE ANCIENT ROMANS HAD SOME GREAT IDEAS!
I never FORGAVE anyone who is so ignorant as to vote for that lying, dishonest-thief and misogynist racist anti-Semite
But, but, but...Netanyahu likes him? :-/
Netanyahu is another wannabe dictator. Israel needs a constitution
Ignorance simply means, literally, "not knowing." It shouldn't have any shame attached to it; it's one of the easiest things in the universe to cure (right, God? :D): once you know something about something, you're not ignorant of it any more! :D Cured!! :D
My definition of stupidity is, I suspect, much like yours: willful ignorance. X-P
Yes that is what I meant. Ignorant and refusing to listen and learn
Heidi has a wife but they voted for Trump? It's almost like they want a divorce without getting divorced.
I had to read Heidi's post twice and re-look at her photo and name. Why on Earth did they vote for the anti-LGBTQ+ party?
I know a Lesbian (if that is ok to say?) dame who and her girlfriend both voted for drumpf..BECAUSE THEY ARE RACISTS. Always the same answer
Oh, good heavens; I missed that...the surprised Trump supporter is GAY?! =8-0
That's like the "Arabs for Trump" thing...did they forget the Muslim Ban? Do they think Trump is going to give three shits about the Palestinians surviving Netanyahu's (sp.) attempt to eradicate them (btw, isn't that a little something we like to call...genocide?)? Why the hell do they think he'll be their "friend" at all?!
I wonder how many wives of people being included in the new administration will decide to exit.
Case in point, Sheryl Hines.
She loves the attention. I very much doubt her leaving him.
OK leopards, on your mark, get set, eat those faces. I am nauseated by the fact that we will hand over our Democracy to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist. Not sure what to do with friends and family who voted for him again. I can’t interact with them anytime soon, or ever? I’m hoping that the horrific plans to deport millions of immigrants might be interrupted and/or hit roadblocks from the court system or the heads of industries that hire immigrants. CA would collapse if all immigrants were deported. Since I’ve educated myself on what another maga administration would entail, I feel like I know too much, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. The REBELLION begins. God, help us all.
At least the newly inducted LAPD chief said to everyone of the media who'd listen, that basically he is NOT GOING TO COMPLY. And Newsom is pretty much digging in, as are quite a few of the other Democrat state governors. If the Rethuglicans are really all for "States' Rights!" that means our states, too. ;)
It’s not like we didn’t try and tell them all of this before.
But, I have an issue with the two bedroom rental being $1500 a month.
You can’t get a studio for $1500 a month.
Your rent pretty much depends upon where you live. If San Francisco or New York City, then, yes pretty high. Not so in other places.
My question to everyone is did you vote for Trump? I am sure this will cost me family members. I have an aunt and uncle who are love the sinner hate the sin types. I suspect they voted for Trump. It will break my heart but I will not stand for their fake love.
If the alternative to Trump had been Josef Stalin
I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR STALIN
SO not surprised this is happening. It’s going to get worst for the morons who voted for him. They can’t blame any democrats. That will make theirs heads explode.